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theIllustriousDrGonzo wrote:Didn't make it to the rally yesterday, but I heard Sanders had a HUGE turnout and killed it. As a person of mixed race and darker skin, the thought of Trump being president terrifies me.

Also Here's more Gallen hate. Whatever nonsense you post in the group page is one thing, but when you start posting your bullshit comments on my personal page, thus sucking the fun out of everything I post, that is poking the bear.

rkwsuperstar wrote:

James.k.Polk wrote:

Patch wrote:

James.k.Polk wrote:The Republican Party spent millions of dollars trying to convince voters that "anybody but Trump" is a reason to vote for another candidate. I'd argue that this "we know better than you" attitude is part of what's driving voters into Trump's corner.

Now Trump is the presumptive nominee and the Democrats are tuning up to sing the same damn song.

I'm not a Trump fan.  Never watched "The Apprentice". But I'm pretty sure Trump is going to win it all.

Bernie has the young vote and if Hillary were smart she would offer him VP and lock up the win. Without him, I think Trump has a good chance.

Hillary is unlikable but the way the party is run, allowed her to take delegates even when Bernie won state. In Wy he won and she came out 11-7. It's been that way since the start. She started out with 469 of 500 Super Delegates before the race started. Super delegates flipped on Hillary last time, so it's possible they could do the same again, but unlikely. I think it was clear she would be the nominee if she stepped out of the way of Obama.

Obama had the young vote. I assume they will stay home with their candidate out of the race.

The way I see it, both Trump and Sanders represent an anti-establishment voting bloc. The Republican anti-establishment voters are having their say, while those in the Democrat party were no
Here's my fear Trump wins the general election. His campaign promises are quickly dropped and the status quo remains. This will piss off enough people that right wing civil unrest will get going. The left wing will already be poised for riots and protest. We'll experience four years of political violence and malaise. The economy tanks. Seriously bad shit goes down.

Finally, war will be drummed up to appease and distract the masses.

He's gonna have a hard time if he wins.  He already seems to not understand what his job would be as President.  Then there's either going to be a Republican held or Democratic held Congress and either way, none of them "like" him and will do what they can to thwart him.  He's unlikely to have many supporters who are willing to write a bill at his request and even if he does, it's gonna be hard to get it passed.  A lot of the goodwill from other world leaders that Obama built back up from Bush is going to be out the window.  Hell, he's already pissing other countries off and he's just a candidate.  
I do fear war, though.  He's not the kind of man who will listen to anyone else (like his advisors) and something is going to happen.

James.k.Polk wrote:

Patch wrote:

James.k.Polk wrote:The Republican Party spent millions of dollars trying to convince voters that "anybody but Trump" is a reason to vote for another candidate. I'd argue that this "we know better than you" attitude is part of what's driving voters into Trump's corner.

Now Trump is the presumptive nominee and the Democrats are tuning up to sing the same damn song.

I'm not a Trump fan.  Never watched "The Apprentice". But I'm pretty sure Trump is going to win it all.

Bernie has the young vote and if Hillary were smart she would offer him VP and lock up the win. Without him, I think Trump has a good chance.

Hillary is unlikable but the way the party is run, allowed her to take delegates even when Bernie won state. In Wy he won and she came out 11-7. It's been that way since the start. She started out with 469 of 500 Super Delegates before the race started. Super delegates flipped on Hillary last time, so it's possible they could do the same again, but unlikely. I think it was clear she would be the nominee if she stepped out of the way of Obama.

Obama had the young vote. I assume they will stay home with their candidate out of the race.

The way I see it, both Trump and Sanders represent an anti-establishment voting bloc. The Republican anti-establishment voters are having their say, while those in the Democrat party were not.

Here's my fear Trump wins the general election. His campaign promises are quickly dropped and the status quo remains. This will piss off enough people that right wing civil unrest will get going. The left wing will already be poised for riots and protest. We'll experience four years of political violence and malaise. The economy tanks. Seriously bad shit goes down.

Finally, war will be drummed up to appease and distract the masses.

Patch wrote:

James.k.Polk wrote:The Republican Party spent millions of dollars trying to convince voters that "anybody but Trump" is a reason to vote for another candidate. I'd argue that this "we know better than you" attitude is part of what's driving voters into Trump's corner.

Now Trump is the presumptive nominee and the Democrats are tuning up to sing the same damn song.

I'm not a Trump fan.  Never watched "The Apprentice". But I'm pretty sure Trump is going to win it all.

Bernie has the young vote and if Hillary were smart she would offer him VP and lock up the win. Without him, I think Trump has a good chance.

Hillary is unlikable but the way the party is run, allowed her to take delegates even when Bernie won state. In Wy he won and she came out 11-7. It's been that way since the start. She started out with 469 of 500 Super Delegates before the race started. Super delegates flipped on Hillary last time, so it's possible they could do the same again, but unlikely. I think it was clear she would be the nominee if she stepped out of the way of Obama.

Obama had the young vote. I assume they will stay home with their candidate out of the race.

James.k.Polk wrote:The Republican Party spent millions of dollars trying to convince voters that "anybody but Trump" is a reason to vote for another candidate. I'd argue that this "we know better than you" attitude is part of what's driving voters into Trump's corner.

Now Trump is the presumptive nominee and the Democrats are tuning up to sing the same damn song.

I'm not a Trump fan.  Never watched "The Apprentice". But I'm pretty sure Trump is going to win it all.

theIllustriousDrGonzo wrote:

warts on his junk.

NebulaJack wrote:

Patch wrote:I'm going to put today's conversation to the test. I will give you the details later but I'll put this on the record now

At Least 2

Confused? I'll let you know more later.

I am baffled and intrigued. Tell me more.

Patch wrote:I'm going to put today's conversation to the test. I will give you the details later but I'll put this on the record now

At Least 2

Confused? I'll let you know more later.

theIllustriousDrGonzo wrote:

rkwsuperstar wrote:Next up, a young boy in Western Kentucky has an imaginary friend that turns out to be a demon who wants to possess him.  "Some people believe evil spirits have wandered this area for centuries, lurking in the shadows, waiting to take another soul."

Gonzo?  Still have your soul?

No. But I don't live in Western Ky either.

rkwsuperstar wrote:Next up, a young boy in Western Kentucky has an imaginary friend that turns out to be a demon who wants to possess him.  "Some people believe evil spirits have wandered this area for centuries, lurking in the shadows, waiting to take another soul."

Gonzo?  Still have your soul?

James.k.Polk wrote:

rkwsuperstar wrote:

NebulaJack wrote:

rkwsuperstar wrote:

rkwsuperstar wrote:Next up, a young boy in Western Kentucky has an imaginary friend that turns out to be a demon who wants to possess him.  "Some people believe evil spirits have wandered this area for centuries, lurking in the shadows, waiting to take another soul."

Gonzo?  Still have your soul?

This family is ridiculous.  This child is clearly a sociopath.  His nanny quit, he's destroying his toys, he tried to kill their pet, he's peed on everything in his room, tells his parents he doesn't have to listen to them.  And their response is to...let him do whatever the hell he wants.  Seriously.  He isn't punished for anything he's done (after he destroys some of his toys, they let him continue to play with his other toys.  I know it's a re-enactment, but the real parents are talking.  He does this, the next day he's playing and this happens.  Why is he playing, shouldn't he be grounded?).  the mom's solution is cry while her 5 year old son runs off to do whatever.  

I guess some people don't want to admit their child is a monster, so they are willing to believe he's possessed by a demon because that's easier to face.

Seriously, this has been going on a year and they never once think their kid needs psychiatric help.  From the beginning, it's been a ghost haunting their kid and making him act a certain way.

I guess it's easier to believe that it's cause by a ghost/demon because they can hope for a more permanent solution by getting an exorcist or something. If they look at the idea of it being a psychological issue, that means it's a life long problem that will involve continuous care and struggle.

I just watched an ep that an exorcism required a priest and rituals and whatnot.  This one, she called an old friend, who was a Native American shaman, and he told her that as the homeowner, she had to perform the cleansing, by pouring olive oil everywhere, burning sage, and praying, while demanding the entity leave.

The burning sage thing I don't get. Do demons not like the smell of overlooked thanksgiving dinner?

And olive oil? Pre-columbian native cultures didn't have access to olives at all did they? Why would olive oil be important to Native American rituals?

NebulaJack wrote:

rkwsuperstar wrote:

NebulaJack wrote:

rkwsuperstar wrote:

rkwsuperstar wrote:Next up, a young boy in Western Kentucky has an imaginary friend that turns out to be a demon who wants to possess him.  "Some people believe evil spirits have wandered this area for centuries, lurking in the shadows, waiting to take another soul."

Gonzo?  Still have your soul?

This family is ridiculous.  This child is clearly a sociopath.  His nanny quit, he's destroying his toys, he tried to kill their pet, he's peed on everything in his room, tells his parents he doesn't have to listen to them.  And their response is to...let him do whatever the hell he wants.  Seriously.  He isn't punished for anything he's done (after he destroys some of his toys, they let him continue to play with his other toys.  I know it's a re-enactment, but the real parents are talking.  He does this, the next day he's playing and this happens.  Why is he playing, shouldn't he be grounded?).  the mom's solution is cry while her 5 year old son runs off to do whatever.  

I guess some people don't want to admit their child is a monster, so they are willing to believe he's possessed by a demon because that's easier to face.

Seriously, this has been going on a year and they never once think their kid needs psychiatric help.  From the beginning, it's been a ghost haunting their kid and making him act a certain way.

I guess it's easier to believe that it's cause by a ghost/demon because they can hope for a more permanent solution by getting an exorcist or something. If they look at the idea of it being a psychological issue, that means it's a life long problem that will involve continuous care and struggle.

I just watched an ep that an exorcism required a priest and rituals and whatnot.  This one, she called an old friend, who was a Native American shaman, and he told her that as the homeowner, she had to perform the cleansing, by pouring olive oil everywhere, burning sage, and praying, while demanding the entity leave.

I wonder at the long term effectiveness of stuff like this. Do shows like this ever do a follow up a few years later to see if the exorcism has "stuck" or if the demons have returned?

rkwsuperstar wrote:

NebulaJack wrote:

rkwsuperstar wrote:

rkwsuperstar wrote:Next up, a young boy in Western Kentucky has an imaginary friend that turns out to be a demon who wants to possess him.  "Some people believe evil spirits have wandered this area for centuries, lurking in the shadows, waiting to take another soul."

Gonzo?  Still have your soul?

This family is ridiculous.  This child is clearly a sociopath.  His nanny quit, he's destroying his toys, he tried to kill their pet, he's peed on everything in his room, tells his parents he doesn't have to listen to them.  And their response is to...let him do whatever the hell he wants.  Seriously.  He isn't punished for anything he's done (after he destroys some of his toys, they let him continue to play with his other toys.  I know it's a re-enactment, but the real parents are talking.  He does this, the next day he's playing and this happens.  Why is he playing, shouldn't he be grounded?).  the mom's solution is cry while her 5 year old son runs off to do whatever.  

I guess some people don't want to admit their child is a monster, so they are willing to believe he's possessed by a demon because that's easier to face.

Seriously, this has been going on a year and they never once think their kid needs psychiatric help.  From the beginning, it's been a ghost haunting their kid and making him act a certain way.

I guess it's easier to believe that it's cause by a ghost/demon because they can hope for a more permanent solution by getting an exorcist or something. If they look at the idea of it being a psychological issue, that means it's a life long problem that will involve continuous care and struggle.

I just watched an ep that an exorcism required a priest and rituals and whatnot.  This one, she called an old friend, who was a Native American shaman, and he told her that as the homeowner, she had to perform the cleansing, by pouring olive oil everywhere, burning sage, and praying, while demanding the entity leave.

NebulaJack wrote:

rkwsuperstar wrote:

NebulaJack wrote:

rkwsuperstar wrote:

rkwsuperstar wrote:Next up, a young boy in Western Kentucky has an imaginary friend that turns out to be a demon who wants to possess him.  "Some people believe evil spirits have wandered this area for centuries, lurking in the shadows, waiting to take another soul."

Gonzo?  Still have your soul?

This family is ridiculous.  This child is clearly a sociopath.  His nanny quit, he's destroying his toys, he tried to kill their pet, he's peed on everything in his room, tells his parents he doesn't have to listen to them.  And their response is to...let him do whatever the hell he wants.  Seriously.  He isn't punished for anything he's done (after he destroys some of his toys, they let him continue to play with his other toys.  I know it's a re-enactment, but the real parents are talking.  He does this, the next day he's playing and this happens.  Why is he playing, shouldn't he be grounded?).  the mom's solution is cry while her 5 year old son runs off to do whatever.  

I guess some people don't want to admit their child is a monster, so they are willing to believe he's possessed by a demon because that's easier to face.

Seriously, this has been going on a year and they never once think their kid needs psychiatric help.  From the beginning, it's been a ghost haunting their kid and making him act a certain way.

I guess it's easier to believe that it's cause by a ghost/demon because they can hope for a more permanent solution by getting an exorcist or something. If they look at the idea of it being a psychological issue, that means it's a life long problem that will involve continuous care and struggle.

I just watched an ep that an exorcism required a priest and rituals and whatnot.  This one, she called an old friend, who was a Native American shaman, and he told her that as the homeowner, she had to perform the cleansing, by pouring olive oil everywhere, burning sage, and praying, while demanding the entity leave.

I wonder at the long term effectiveness of stuff like this. Do shows like this ever do a follow up a few years later to see if the exorcism has "stuck" or if the demons have returned?

rkwsuperstar wrote:

NebulaJack wrote:

rkwsuperstar wrote:

rkwsuperstar wrote:Next up, a young boy in Western Kentucky has an imaginary friend that turns out to be a demon who wants to possess him.  "Some people believe evil spirits have wandered this area for centuries, lurking in the shadows, waiting to take another soul."

Gonzo?  Still have your soul?

This family is ridiculous.  This child is clearly a sociopath.  His nanny quit, he's destroying his toys, he tried to kill their pet, he's peed on everything in his room, tells his parents he doesn't have to listen to them.  And their response is to...let him do whatever the hell he wants.  Seriously.  He isn't punished for anything he's done (after he destroys some of his toys, they let him continue to play with his other toys.  I know it's a re-enactment, but the real parents are talking.  He does this, the next day he's playing and this happens.  Why is he playing, shouldn't he be grounded?).  the mom's solution is cry while her 5 year old son runs off to do whatever.  

I guess some people don't want to admit their child is a monster, so they are willing to believe he's possessed by a demon because that's easier to face.

Seriously, this has been going on a year and they never once think their kid needs psychiatric help.  From the beginning, it's been a ghost haunting their kid and making him act a certain way.

I guess it's easier to believe that it's cause by a ghost/demon because they can hope for a more permanent solution by getting an exorcist or something. If they look at the idea of it being a psychological issue, that means it's a life long problem that will involve continuous care and struggle.

I just watched an ep that an exorcism required a priest and rituals and whatnot.  This one, she called an old friend, who was a Native American shaman, and he told her that as the homeowner, she had to perform the cleansing, by pouring olive oil everywhere, burning sage, and praying, while demanding the entity leave.

NebulaJack wrote:

rkwsuperstar wrote:

rkwsuperstar wrote:Next up, a young boy in Western Kentucky has an imaginary friend that turns out to be a demon who wants to possess him.  "Some people believe evil spirits have wandered this area for centuries, lurking in the shadows, waiting to take another soul."

Gonzo?  Still have your soul?

This family is ridiculous.  This child is clearly a sociopath.  His nanny quit, he's destroying his toys, he tried to kill their pet, he's peed on everything in his room, tells his parents he doesn't have to listen to them.  And their response is to...let him do whatever the hell he wants.  Seriously.  He isn't punished for anything he's done (after he destroys some of his toys, they let him continue to play with his other toys.  I know it's a re-enactment, but the real parents are talking.  He does this, the next day he's playing and this happens.  Why is he playing, shouldn't he be grounded?).  the mom's solution is cry while her 5 year old son runs off to do whatever.  

I guess some people don't want to admit their child is a monster, so they are willing to believe he's possessed by a demon because that's easier to face.

Seriously, this has been going on a year and they never once think their kid needs psychiatric help.  From the beginning, it's been a ghost haunting their kid and making him act a certain way.

I guess it's easier to believe that it's cause by a ghost/demon because they can hope for a more permanent solution by getting an exorcist or something. If they look at the idea of it being a psychological issue, that means it's a life long problem that will involve continuous care and struggle.

rkwsuperstar wrote:

rkwsuperstar wrote:Next up, a young boy in Western Kentucky has an imaginary friend that turns out to be a demon who wants to possess him.  "Some people believe evil spirits have wandered this area for centuries, lurking in the shadows, waiting to take another soul."

Gonzo?  Still have your soul?

This family is ridiculous.  This child is clearly a sociopath.  His nanny quit, he's destroying his toys, he tried to kill their pet, he's peed on everything in his room, tells his parents he doesn't have to listen to them.  And their response is to...let him do whatever the hell he wants.  Seriously.  He isn't punished for anything he's done (after he destroys some of his toys, they let him continue to play with his other toys.  I know it's a re-enactment, but the real parents are talking.  He does this, the next day he's playing and this happens.  Why is he playing, shouldn't he be grounded?).  the mom's solution is cry while her 5 year old son runs off to do whatever.  

I guess some people don't want to admit their child is a monster, so they are willing to believe he's possessed by a demon because that's easier to face.

Seriously, this has been going on a year and they never once think their kid needs psychiatric help.  From the beginning, it's been a ghost haunting their kid and making him act a certain way.

Patch wrote:

NebulaJack wrote:

At this point, I'd describe myself as the seemingly paradoxical mix of being an atheist who believes in magic. I'm not 100% convinced that there's no god, I just don't find any of the proposed beliefs of what he/it is to be convincing, and the idea of a universe without a god seems no less explicable or believable to me than a universe with one. At the same time, I feel like there's a sort of shared mental space that humans can reach where we see a wider perspective of reality and can influence how we interact with it.

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I believe in God. Its a shared thought over many religions of a higher power. I don't think my relationship with God matches or should follow guidelines set by another. All religions were shaped, molded, changed and abused by man. What is left is a letter of the law that solely depends on which book you happened to pick up, family upbringing, or part of the world you live in. At the center of the majority is a similar lesson. I set point for your moral compass, a guide for your conscience. That is where my belief lies. I know it may seem strange since speaking about belief in God, is either mocked as stupidity, or you are assumed a "High Horse" Christian.

I am neither. I have a guide in my life. I don't deserve the life I have. I know this to be true. My relationship with God is unique and my own.

At the end of the day, I'll take that.

rkwsuperstar wrote:Next up, a young boy in Western Kentucky has an imaginary friend that turns out to be a demon who wants to possess him.  "Some people believe evil spirits have wandered this area for centuries, lurking in the shadows, waiting to take another soul."

Gonzo?  Still have your soul?

NebulaJack wrote:

At this point, I'd describe myself as the seemingly paradoxical mix of being an atheist who believes in magic. I'm not 100% convinced that there's no god, I just don't find any of the proposed beliefs of what he/it is to be convincing, and the idea of a universe without a god seems no less explicable or believable to me than a universe with one. At the same time, I feel like there's a sort of shared mental space that humans can reach where we see a wider perspective of reality and can influence how we interact with it.

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